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 Post subject: Re: How very dare he..
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:58 am 
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I throw away quite a lot of food each week. It's not because I'm wasteful, it's because most things I buy seem to go out of date within four days.

Of course, I could drive to the supermarket three times a week but, frankly, I have better things to do.

So, I buy exactly what I need for the week but always throw out half a loaf of bread and invariably eat out unplanned a couple of times and so end up throwing away two lots of meals.

The only realistic alternative is to eat more (no, thanks) or to buy less and run the risk of running out of things (no, thanks).

However, now Broon has come out with this latest load of shite I now intend to make no attempt whatsoever to reduce my food wastage. What does it matter whether I stuff it all down my face or in the bin? Why, when 78% of my earnings are grabbed in tax (which they feel they know how to spend better than I do) should I be told what I can and can't do with the 22% they so kindly allow me to do with roughly as I choose?

Still, this latest sermon will, I'm sure, go down very well with Labour's core voters - many of whom probably DO run out of food each week and have no money with which to buy any more. I'm sure they'll be delighted to learn that all they need to do to save money - and the planet - is waste less food.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:02 am 
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Old Holborn wrote:
Becuase it is no business of the State to tell supermarkets what they can and cannot sell us or how, that's why.


Is that why legislation is currently being considered to set a minimum price per unit for alcohol?

You above all people Holby should know that it's a founding principle of THIS government to interfere in EVERYONE'S life as much as it can.

Give it ten years we'll be swiping our ID cards at the checkout so the Health Sec can monitor EVERYTHING we buy.

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CJ, if you want to buy four potatoes, go to a green grocer or your local market.


If I had that much time I'd grow my own.

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The "eat by date" is set to protect the seller and the product is often still good to eat six weeks after. I never look at this date and use my eyes and nose to determine if it is edible.

As for waste, my plate is always clean, because when I was a child I would get a clip round the lug-hole if it wasn't. It does annoy me to see the amount young people today throw away and worst of all is when they load on a second helping and leave half of it. However our dustbin is full of expensive packaging that I find is increasingly difficult to remove. Anyway Brown has the right policies to reduce waste, increased prices and reduced net disposable income will do the trick.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:15 am 
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CJ wrote:

Give it ten years we'll be swiping our ID cards at the checkout so the Health Sec can monitor EVERYTHING we buy.



Ten years? Get with the effing programme!

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The new Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith, today urged Britain to increase its usage of shop loyalty cards and urged retailers who do not have the programmes to introduce them. Ms Smith’s statement comes in the wake of revelations that the Glasgow bombers acquired their supplies from the do-it-yourself specialist B&Q.

"We would have been able to detect the preparations for the bombing attempts in London and Glasgow if we had more access to people’s shopping habits," she said in a statement to the House of Commons. "If B&Q had a loyalty card then this data would greatly enhance our intelligence gathering capabilities."

A spokesman for the leading retail espionage service, Tesco said that it has always worked closely with the Home Office and the intelligence community and denied that they were using the information for any sinister purpose.

"It isn’t just about increased profits for the Tesco group, it is also about the nation’s well being," said Hamish Billingsworth. "For example, we have a comprehensive database of everyone who is, shall we say, making sure they get at least a glass of red wine a day. If you know what I mean."



http://www.surrealscoop.com/2007/07/gov ... yalty.html

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lucemferre wrote:
I throw away quite a lot of food each week. It's not because I'm wasteful, it's because most things I buy seem to go out of date within four days.
So you believe the sell-by date has to be adhered to?
Haven't you yet realised that it's a rough guide and most items will keep for much longer than that?

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Of course, I could drive to the supermarket three times a week but, frankly, I have better things to do.

So, I buy exactly what I need for the week but always throw out half a loaf of bread and invariably eat out unplanned a couple of times and so end up throwing away two lots of meals.

The only realistic alternative is to eat more (no, thanks) or to buy less and run the risk of running out of things (no, thanks).
There's no need to shop three times a week, we have things called refrigerators and freezers these days.

Buy a smaller loaf?

If you 'invariably' eat out a couple of times each week, you're invariably buying food for two meals too many each week!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:24 am 
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Daft bint.

It doesn't affect her - all she buys is sausages and pies.

But seriously. Gordos' latest pronouncement is really quite revealing in what it actually implies. THIS GOVERNMENT IS COMPLETELY OUT OF IDEAS.

Analyse it: Food's expensive - so buy less.

Whoopdee effing do. That, ladies and gentlemen is today's inspirational little gem, from the most powerful man in the country. Utter cock.

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 Post subject: Re: How very dare he..
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:26 am 

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I hate to say this, but I'm in full agreement with them on this one.
There is much too much food being wasted at all levels.
Anthony Worral Thompson and many other foodies are trying to bring the unnecessary waste problem to the attention of the public via TV progs.

Forget the environmental impact, just think of the cost:
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An estimated 6.7 million tonnes of household food waste is produced each year in the UK, most of which could have been eaten.

http://www.wrap.org.uk/retail/food_waste/index.html
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The organisation said the survey suggested people were in a state of denial about the amount of food they were wasting.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6456987.stm

No waste food in this house! :!:

Edit: While OH thinks it's all to do with money. :roll:


Elvis, I do not disagree with you, there is far to much food wasted. An appalling ammount.

This Government seems to think that it can ride rough shod over us, come to think of it, it can and it does duhh, in one breath we are told to but more, and in the next buy less.

There are those amongst us who are able and who do as far as we are able, make our own decisions, and most of the time, given the restrictions placed upon us, those decisions are sensible. I am willing to bet that most people on here recycle as far as they are able, (if only because we were born before this 'throw away' society came to the fore) purchase or grow food that meets their requirements.

Fruit and vegetables have been grown to look perfect, the taste has been bred out of them, the soil, if indeed any is used has been washed of of it, it has been packaged and wrapped flown thousands of miles, in many circumstances, picked before it is ripe, so that when it does ripen it lasts all of three minutes. Food has been mass produced, badly produced and badly handled, in more ways than one!

Now when some chickens are coming home to roost and because it suits him good old Mr Brown jumps on the ' umm maybe we shouldn't be doing this' wagon.

It is that which has infuriated me, I still have not calmed down, I'd like to have a look in his fridge, the tosser.




I will now go and take some of my pills and lay down in a darkened room :oops:


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Analyse it: Food's expensive - so buy less.
Or maybe, buy less and throw less away?

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Think of the starving Africans!

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Old Holborn wrote:
Dawn, a bloke called Micky at the White Hart in Braintree will send anyone to the fishes for around £500. Apparently he has mate whose lobster pots always need bait.


Thanks OH I will be there in a couple of hours.

I think that a whip round is called for, cash only please. :twisted:


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I can see the next move.

A "food waste bin", rigorously monitored by the council Stasi (at massive cost) and a tax on crunchy sprouts spat out by ungrateful citizens.

Prepare yourselves for a food tax

"If you're going to waste it, ZNL will make sure it all goes to a good cause"

Doesn't he do the same with Petrol?

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How many people stop to consider that most of their waste food ends up on a tip and produces methane?
We live in a disposable world and most people only consider food cost in cash money. There are other things to consider, but don't bother let that stop you from wasting it.
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When the average person contemplates the issues surrounding landfills, it's doubtful they give much consideration to the tons of food that fill them.

Food biodegrades so where is the problem?

The problem, environmentalists say, is just that. When food rots, it releases methane, a greenhouse gas which the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) says is 20 times more damaging to the environment than carbon dioxide (CO2).

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/09/24/food.leftovers/index.html

What a few yanks are doing about it:
http://www.epa.gov/epaoswer/non-hw/reduce/food/food.htm

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Yay! The first idiot rolls up the methane argument!

Imagine, if you can Elvis, a whole planet forested with trees. Nice isn't it? Now, every Autumn, all those leaves fall off the trees.

Do you know what happens to those leaves Elvis?

Should we plant less or more trees Elvis? Are trees evil Elvis?

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Which ever way it decomposes food will always give off the same gases.


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Now I see that John Prescott was way ahead of his time. He ate everything on his plate... and everything on everybody elses plate.

and puked it up again.

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