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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:59 pm 
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Loads of adverts for online gambling now, poker or Roulette, often shown as if the punter is actually walking into a plush salon staffed by greasy dagoes with swivel hips and slicked down hair and a selection of busty women all of whom will take you home if you win .
How does this work, you sit there ,give them money and the wheel is spun and you've lost, sorry sir try again and again. You're not there so why would you believe them? Am I missing something here?
Poker is said to be a game where the cards you are dealt has less to do with the outcome than any other game, because you bluff, you see the other players faces and make a judgement on whether they are bluffing, the essential ingredient of the game , the excitement of making that call. Not sitting at home hoping your hand is better than someone elses who you cannot see.
It's me isn't it ?, I'm not getting the point maybe. any enlightenment ?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:05 pm 
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It's me isn't it ?, I'm not getting the point maybe. any enlightenment ?


Nope, you are simply familiar with the saying "a fool and his money are easily parted"

If the mugs have nothing better to do than waste their money then they deserve all the disappointment they get.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:29 pm 
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It's exactly the area that required government action (that's what we hire them for), TEN YEARS AGO.

The bunch of useless ineffectual wankers are happy to let it carry on until they are forced to intervene.

Similair argument to allowing Wonga to charge 4,000% interest on loans.

Bastards.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:48 pm 
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The one TV advert that makes me blow a fuse is the Gambling potato shite. Clearly aimed at the hard of thinking. Who in their right mind gambles anyway. I have never set foot in a bookies only when called as a copper to a punch up in one once.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:52 pm 
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Surely the "First thirty quidsworth of bets are free" should ring alarm bells for even the dumbest?
How does the bingo work? - How do you know you're the first to call 'house'?




sorry you didn't win this time.


have another go.


sucker.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:35 pm 
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Well there is gambling and gambling. Most of what is available online or by mobile phone is complete rubbish and the odds are always against you no matter what tactics you may employ.

The real klondyke for online gambling was over a decade ago when new player bonuses gave excellent mathematical opportunity to make a profit. The bonus 'abuser', as it was known in the trade, was able to fleece a lot of cash from these companies (not against other players) using the new player bonuses to advantage and playing through them using set formula.

I did it and made a packet. Although I lost some of my packet when I started to play without bonuses. Daft humbug. Nevertheless it proved a very useful third income for the house over about a six year period. I knew a couple of dozen chaps who played the companies in this fashion and I know one, a little bolder than me, who made over a million...at 20 years old.

The good old days but what is over is over.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:39 pm 
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Surely anyone with more than 2 grey cells to rub together realises that every gambling outlet, from bookies to fruit machines to the online crapola, only exists because it makes money. Therefore the average punter in the long run must lose.

Presumably most of the pond life who find their outlet of choice by watching the ads in the breaks between the plebs on the Jeremy Kyle Show doesn't see themselves as being the average punter.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:58 pm 
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The other disgraceful thing about this increased tv push in gambling via slots and online games,is that it is known to be cruelly addictive. All manner of research is available that points quite clearly towards this fact.

For example, Video Poker is available via a variety of outlets. It has been shown that someone who likes to go the Greyhound Races takes around 20 years to become addicted, compared to Video Poker, which is just 2 years.

Problem is, what starts out as a bit of fun, a few quid here or there, can escalate, as the mind requires higher and higher stakes to get the same buzz.

It is appalling that these adverts be allowed, especially during difficult financial times.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:17 pm 
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One of the few growing 'industries' in the UK - I'm sure one of the adverts boasts that they pay out 500k every day (maybe every hour), how much are people actually paying in then?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:47 pm 
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Many of those who advertise online and on mobiles etc are based in Gibraltar or Malta or some other "resort"....and oddly siphon loadsamoney out of the UK but equally pay sod all tax to the Uk Tax pot.

Daughter of a neighbour spends 6 weeks in Gib then 3 weeks at home in Yorkshire and works out there as a Computer Geek ensuring the odds are well tweaked against the punter...allegedly..

" She admitted in company that the rules on odds offered in the ad in the UK are different to the odds offered in Gib...but Idiot Features of Basingstoke fails to realise this --and is reamed potless in hours!"

BTW..She has zero conscience--and had been a Prison Warder at Askham Prison near here before she went overseas.

Apparently she learned most of her computering skills from a female convict at Askham...who was in for contributing to the downfall of Northern Rock.....yes you've guessed it...by doctoring computer programmes at the Bank so that torrents landed in her accounts..not half of which have been traced......hmmmm

I asked how come that prisoner was allowed anywhere near a computer.??.

The answer was that her "rehabilitation avenue "( ?? :scratch: :scratch: :scratch: ) was best provided by addressing her abilities where they could eventually be to her benefit.

So next time round she seriously screws the Bank of England/ Ireland/Scotland/ France/or Bank of America..I queried??

" Thats how the system works....and partly why I left" was the response.

One shudders...does one not?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:12 pm 
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I've not much of a problem with whatever they do with the odds, they are well published and people can take them or leave them. Having said that a new compo culture could be in the offing, mis-sold odds anyone?

As for the computer based thief, surely her Northern Rock behaviour should have earned her promotion followed by knighthood. Having said that, we employ ethical hackers to test our systems are secure, most were previously unethical hackers. Takes a criminal mind to stop a criminal mind, most have merely grown old enough to grow a consience or fear risk...

ps I can't spell conceince.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:29 am 
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It is stating the obvious that these type of advertised games are no more than a lottery.
i.e. you could win but the odds of that happening are astronomical .

I like to have a punt but i am only interested in scooping a big one.

£100 here or there will only be wasted on more punting therefore

each week a 50p win yankee on Fulham, Watford, Brentford, Barnet
all to draw 3-3 all at a minimum of 50-1 . Therefore should 2 come up
£ 1250 in my bin and £1250 going on the other 2 etc. However i am
still waiting for my ship to come in!

also

Waltstow Dogs Sat night

1st race 6-5
2cnd " 4-3
2cnd last 3-2
last race 2-1

50p sf yankee ... a couple of decent doubles over the years have come my way.

Total weekly outlay £11

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:42 am 
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The other night I was watching a play on TV called "The Innocent" about two barristers, one of whom raped the other. It was on New Year's Eve, late at night on an obscure channel and I doubt if many people were watching it. Yet, on every commercial break, of which there were at least 10, there were three on line gambling adverts.

As Bland says, at one time it was possible to make a few bob by playing these companies at their own game by only betting with their money, but this is, I understand, far harder than it used to be.

So what is their target market? Addicts, perhaps, but they only have limited funds, so what they spend on-line they cannot spend in the casinos and betting shops, C2 housewives, surely they would prefer to attend a game in a drafty cinema, Rich Arabs, I do not think so.

I really cannot see the point sitting at home furtively gambling. At least, in all the casinos I have been in, the drinks are cheap and there is lots of totty.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:59 am 
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Gambling keeps the lower orders occupied. It gives them an (erroneous) sense of hope. As long as there are photos of another obese northern couple spraying Champagne around with a big cardboard cheque in front of them every month, telling everyone their priority with their £7.4 million winnings is to buy a washing machine that works, there will be millions of benefit dependents queuing up to play the odds.

My only significant experience of gambling relates to situation where it wasn't really a gamble at all. In my younger days I had a friend who passed on the necessary knowledge to ensure playing fruit machines always resulted in worthwhile winnings. Used to 'make' about £150 a week back in the mid-80s, which made life considerably more pleasant.

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One has only to watch a member of the underclass purchasing a scratchcard to see what it is all about. It provides a ray of hope in their dreary and otherwise uneventful and meaningless lives. It is participation in the delusion that they can get something for nothing. Poor hopless suckers.

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